Comments on: Quote: Joseph Smith and Mahatma Gandhi on Change http://thoughtsofaseeker.net/quote-joseph-smith-and-mahatma-gandhi-on-change/ Exploring the important religious questions from a Mormon (LDS) perspective. Focus on ancient history, early Christianity, and Mormon doctrine/practice. Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:21:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: joseph smith and mahatma gandhi on change « a latter day satyagraha http://thoughtsofaseeker.net/quote-joseph-smith-and-mahatma-gandhi-on-change/comment-page-1/#comment-188 joseph smith and mahatma gandhi on change « a latter day satyagraha Fri, 22 May 2009 10:37:19 +0000 http://thoughtsofaseeker.net/quote-joseph-smith-and-mahatma-gandhi-on-change/#comment-188 [...] 1 by mormongandhi on May 22, 2009 Here is an article from January 2008 published on ‘Thoughts of a Seeker‘. It is definitely worth publishing here as well, as it is in harmony with the spirit of this [...] [...] 1 by mormongandhi on May 22, 2009 Here is an article from January 2008 published on ‘Thoughts of a Seeker‘. It is definitely worth publishing here as well, as it is in harmony with the spirit of this [...]

]]> By: BHodges http://thoughtsofaseeker.net/quote-joseph-smith-and-mahatma-gandhi-on-change/comment-page-1/#comment-77 BHodges Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:55:06 +0000 http://thoughtsofaseeker.net/quote-joseph-smith-and-mahatma-gandhi-on-change/#comment-77 Well done. I love the coupling of the quotes, and I will likely borrow from your conclusions in the future in talks, comments online, or otherwise. Joseph Smith bridges the gap between individualistic religiosity in the form of a "personal salvation" and the humanist efforts to give aid to mortals in need. A Zion within onesself automatically leads one to desire a Zion society, and work towards that end begins. Elsewhere, Joseph said: "The nearer we get to our heavenly Father the more are we disposed to look with compassion on perishing souls to take them upon our shoulders and cast their sins behind our back" (Instructions delivered at the Eliza R. Snow, Relief Society Minutes, Nauvoo Female Relief Society, Thurs. April 28, 1842, Held in upper room of Red Brick Store). Like the Book of Enos, who prayed for himself, felt redeemed, then prayed for his close ones, then was moved to pray even for his enemies. His conversion resulted in a direct desire to bless others. It was not a self-enforced process, per se; I believe conversion is a gift, one we must open, but it comes from outside ourselves. Check out this post: http://lifeongoldplates.blogspot.com/2007/07/you-find-what-you-seek-charity-and.html Well done. I love the coupling of the quotes, and I will likely borrow from your conclusions in the future in talks, comments online, or otherwise. Joseph Smith bridges the gap between individualistic religiosity in the form of a “personal salvation” and the humanist efforts to give aid to mortals in need. A Zion within onesself automatically leads one to desire a Zion society, and work towards that end begins. Elsewhere, Joseph said:

“The nearer we get to our heavenly Father the more are we disposed to look with compassion on perishing souls to take them upon our shoulders and cast their sins behind our back” (Instructions delivered at the Eliza R. Snow, Relief Society Minutes, Nauvoo Female Relief Society, Thurs. April 28, 1842, Held in upper room of Red Brick Store).

Like the Book of Enos, who prayed for himself, felt redeemed, then prayed for his close ones, then was moved to pray even for his enemies. His conversion resulted in a direct desire to bless others.

It was not a self-enforced process, per se; I believe conversion is a gift, one we must open, but it comes from outside ourselves. Check out this post:

http://lifeongoldplates.blogspot.com/2007/07/you-find-what-you-seek-charity-and.html

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